All the other nations in the world are marching forward but Nepal has been going backwards. I think China should take over not just Tibet but also Nepal as well so that atleast development will take place in the region.

anura8, shut your pie hole, what makes you think that Nepal should be a part of China ( Zhong f**king Guo), have you ever lived in China? Go and live there and ask the citizens of your beloved neighboring country where Nepal is located? 90% of Chinese people have no clue where Nepal is. There so many regions in China that are underdeveloped than Nepal's rural region. We don't need any other country in the world  to take over and develop our country. We have the resources but we are not using in properly. There should be big change in the
bureaucracy in Nepal.

Sajha fan, that is a good song.  I remember hearing it on Radio Nepal long long time ago.  Gopal Yonzon's rachanaa, sangit ra swar, hoina?

I have to disagree with Nas.  International Aid has done lot of good in Nepal.  Granted there could be more productive result and less corruption in that arena, but it is what it is.  And the net effect is overwhelming positive.

I like Dr. Dhakal's idea of "small government" but I am totally against the system of democracy. For me it is a system of mobocracy where 51% exercise their will on 49%, a form of government where three wolves and a sheep vote on what's for dinner. Simply stated, a democracy is a dictatorship of the majority. Socrates was executed by a democracy: though he harmed no one, the majority found him intolerable.A democracy is majority rule and is destructive of liberty because there is no law to prevent the majority from trampling on individual rights. Whatever the majority says goes! A lynch mob is an example of pure democracy in action. There is only one dissenting vote, and that is cast by the person at the end of the rope.

A certain Professor Alexander Fraser Tytler, nearly two centuries ago, had this to say about Democracy: " A Democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of Government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largess out of public treasury.  From that moment on the  majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that Democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a Dictatorship."

I prefer Constitutional Republic like in the united States of America. However, the good old republic has now been hijacked and replaced by democracy. The founding fathers of America infact hated democracy. A republic and a democracy are identical in every aspect except one. In a republic the sovereignty is in each individual person. In a democracy the sovereignty is in the group. In a republic the group only has advisory powers; the sovereign individual is free to reject the majority group-think.

Lennin said "Democracy is indispensable to socialism." I am suprised by some sajhites who hates communism but favors socialism and when it comes to the word "democracy", oh... they just love it.

Democracy leads to socialism which ultimately leads to communism /authoritarian dictatorship. We should stop advocating for democracy.

anura8 is rite brother...let us call us chinese..hahah...

I am sorry but.... i really have to say.... tibetans are not nepali... I had frens from tibet when i went to school

but he never considered himself as a nepali even when he was born in Nepal....So what the heck is wrong with you guys?

can you get off this website....Our concern is mostly related to Nepalese people, Nepal and our culture.... You guys are

just taking this blogsite as if we CARE!!! Free your country!!! Great!! We will be happy!! Did any Tibetians help free

our country??? You guys just migrated into our country; we didn't invite you guys... just leave our country!!
we are having a population crisis as it is in Nepal and adding you Tibetians is not helping us. Just leave nepal and demonstrate

somewhere else. We nepalese never demonstrated anywhere else to our land and freedom.

But you cowards left your country with all the gold and now you want the whole world help you??? Shame on you guys. If you are real tibetians

go back to Tibet and fight.... CHAKKAASS!!

You guys have spoiled our land in nepal with all the bad influence you brought with along.

Tibetians are gold smugglers of the 60s 70s 80s and even the 90s. You looted your own country... as our choor natas looted our Nepal....

SO DO US A FAVOR JUST FREAKING LEAVE OUR NATION...STOP PROTESTING... IN NEPAL COZ THE PICS THAT WE SEE IN BBC AND CNN IS MAKING THE

WHOLE WORLD THINK NEPAL IS A INHUMANE PLACE!!!

peace!!

Riten bro, yes the international alms have fed our people but those alms have inturn kept us begging for more alms to survive. I see a clear insult to Nepalese people, I don't know why you don't see it that way.  When has begging ever been a matter of dignity and pride ?

"Analysis by William Easterly, and Raghuram Rajan at the International Monetary Fund, indicates zero impact from Western aid on growth in poor nations."

Has Foreign Aid Influenced Economic Freedom?

"For more than 50 years individual countries and international agencies have given aid to third world countries to promote economic development, yet poverty still persists in many recipient nations. This raises two important questions. Does the receipt of aid lead to increases or decreases in economic freedom, and are increases in economic freedom rewarded with more aid or punished with reduced aid?

The failure of aid to directly promote development in impoverished countries is well documented. Boone (1996), Vasquez (1998), Easterly and Levine (2001), and Ovaska (2003) all find that development aid fails to systematically improve growth rates. Easterly (2001) summarizes World Bank aid policies that have failed to promote development. Although aid has generally failed to promote development.

P.T. Bauer long contended that intergovernmental aid increases the size and scope of recipient governments, contributes to the politicization of life, negatively impacts economic performance, and is, on balance, an anti-market force (1971, 1978, 1984, 1990).2 His long list of anti-market policies to which aid contributes includes expulsion of productive groups, suppression of private trade, restriction of the inflow of foreign capital, confiscation of property, forced collectivization, takeover of foreign enterprises, discouragement of agriculture, support of unviable projects, and import substitution (1990, 46). "

One day I am hoping our generation will get rid of our beggar mentality like the Iranians have.

http://www.petitiononline.com/NoUSAID/petition.html

We are not begger. But yes we get decent amount of foriegn aids and they are not utilized properly not even 20 % of it.. But the main thing is we are Nepali and our pride does not allow us to handover our country to anyone else, whatever be the condition. 

anura8: I get your point. But, go to hell!

Nepwanted bro, so our pride should allow to treat our nation as a beggar nation by accepting the alms from foreigners ? As I told you, we don't need to hand our country to India or China to  be their slaves. Do you think Bhutan is an independant nation? Bhutanization of our nation is enough to be a slave nation. That will be the ultimate fate of our nation if we keep on depending on the foreigners and their aids. They will make us their slaves by their consent not by force.  It starts with economic enslavement.

It does not matter how much aids are being utilized... 20%...50%, whatever. I am reminded of a beggar who won a car as a lottery prize. The next day, he went for begging, driving his car. That's exactly the kind of mentality we have.

 

nappy ass-  i m not gonna read all that and i m sure its crap u made up maan gadhante kura haru

 

every country borrows money from other country hell even the united states borrows money from china to be realistic nepal cannot survive without foreign aid its upto our politicians how to utilize the aid and its obvious our netas do what with the money so first of all we all should get together to get rid of all these netas but we ourselves are weak we are taking shelter in foreign land and all we can do is rant about our nation in a forum like this and others

i feel depressed

I am nepali-- so if there is something unfair happening u will only voice if its happening to nepali ppl? if ur friend is black and is being procecuted because of his color wouldnt u stand up for him?? for his rights?

ofcourse tibeten born in nepal is not nepali just like anywhere else their citizenship might be of nepal they dont have to change their culture their identity. just like someone who is born to nepalis parents in america their ethnicity is still nepali their citizenship might be of america it wont change their heritage

 

i dont know what the f**k NAS wants to admit. Yes we are poor but we are not begger. Yeah it is true that country is running on foreign aids but the issue here is something else. Being like bhutan ! are you gone mad?

Gundaa bro, if you think I made all that up, then I have nothing to say. Nice talking to you.

 "every country borrows money from other country hell even the united states borrows money from china to be realistic nepal cannot survive without foreign aid its upto our politicians how to utilize the aid and its obvious our netas do what with the money so first of all we all should get together to get rid of all these netas but we ourselves are weak we are taking shelter in foreign land and all we can do is rant about our nation in a forum like this and others.......i feel depressed"

Spoiled bro, you brought up something to the light. America borrowing from China which only comes to second after Japan but it's a piece of cake compared to whom the American Government is borrowing from....the International Private Bankers (i.e the Federal Reserves).  Americans are as much slaves as Nepalese are, the only thing that differs is that they have higher quality of life than the Nepalese so far. American national debt is $49 trillion (The officials put it to 9 trillion...which is not true). That's $156,000 for every citizen, or $375,000 for every working American. In 2003 Nepal's national debt was $2.98 billion. Who owns that $49 trillion plus the interests and all the World's debt plus the interests? The International Banking elites... the house of Rothschilds. Poor countries and billions of people are being devastated under the burden of debt and trade policies of the IMF, World Bank and the WTO. These fronts are set by the Rothschild/Rockefeller/Warburg/Morgan interests.

 "The ultimate ownership of all property is in the state; individual so-called `ownership' is only by virtue of government, i.e., law, amounting to a mere user; and use must be in accordance with law and subordinate to the necessities of the State." - Senate Document No. 43, "Contracts payable in Gold" written in 1933. Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been operating under the state of declared national emergency. Americans own NOTHING, ZIP, NADA, not even their OWN CHILDREN. Every thing belongs to United State Corporation. Sounds crazy ? Just research yourself.

We the people of the whole world are slaves to the International Banking cartels. They have become our ultimate masters. We are nothing but "Human resources" of our nation who pays our national debt through our slave labor to the Rothschilds dynasty. That's the real truth. I don't know if our so called leaders even know about these facts. Did you know about these facts?

I feel depressed too bro but don't think that expressing our ideas are in vain. Victor Hugo said "All the forces in the world are not so powerful as an idea whose time has come." Its time we wake up and spread up these words to the masses and wake the masses  up. Do your own research on Rothschilds/Rockefellers and their global agenda and spread the words.

 I digressed from the main topic.......but these are important information. Trust me.

Whoever says - nepal should be the part of china(or india) = those bastard who sell there mother(n sis).

Now, who wants nepal to be a part of  china (or  india)???????

 

MrNobody, is your sister for sale ? They re talking about development of the nation not about selling anything :)

nepwanted bro

Very important facts which prove what I have been saying. We are not a Sovereign people. We have no say. We are just the puppets of foreign powers. We are infact slaves. We go on following their dictates. How could we be a sovereign nation ? Only retaining our borders don't make us a sovereign and Independent nation. As long as we survive on those foreign aids, which always come with string attached, we are basically slaves. 

Times article.

"China's assertion that it doesn't interfere in other countries' internal affairs has always suited the country's leaders for two reasons: it allows China to do business in places with dubious human rights records such as Sudan and Zimbabwe; and it serves as a ready "mind your own business" rebuttal to critics of Beijing's own internal policies in places such as Tibet. But as China grows more powerful, its leaders are finding it increasingly difficult to walk this laissez-faire diplomatic line. Beijing has gone along with the deployment of United Nations peacekeepers to Sudan's troubled Darfur province, and is even providing some troops of its own. Prime Minister Wen Jiabao recently called for democracy in Burma, another country with close ties to the Chinese government.

 

Those two examples indicate Beijing is beginning to realize that it needs to be a good global citizen. But China's increasing willingness to interfere in the internal affairs of other countries does not mean the country isn't tending its own interests. Case in point: China's southern neighbor Nepal. Nepal has long looked to India as its natural ally in the region. But in the past few years successive governments in Kathmandu, perhaps sensing that Beijing and not New Delhi will be the real power in coming decades, have grown closer to China. Just how close the two have become can be seen in Nepal's reaction to the flare-up in Tibet. Nepal is home to a sizable Tibetan exile community. Officially, Tibetans are not allowed to organize politically in Nepal or air their anti-China grievances. A series of peaceful protests outside the Chinese embassy and at a United Nations building in Kathmandu over the past week have been broken up, sometimes brutally, by Nepalese police. Activists and journalists claim that, during the embassy protest on March 15, Chinese officials directed the police and also took photos of protestors.

 

Beijing has also deployed security officials inside Nepal, presumably to help detect fleeing Tibetans and keep a lid on unrest. Chinese security agents even stopped a reporter and photographer from Agence France-Presse from working inside Nepal three days ago, a small but heavy-handed example of China's reach.

 

There are other examples. Tourism officials and mountain-climbing companies in Nepal said last week that Beijing has asked Nepal to shut down access to southern climbing routes up Mt. Everest. This year's Olympic torch relay includes a visit to the summit of the world's highest mountain; Chinese authorities recently announced that they are closing their side of Everest — the northern slopes — because of overcrowding and environmental concerns. Most climbers believe the real reason is that China wants to prevent any demonstrations that would mar the event. Last year, climbers unfurled a banner at Everest base camp playing on the Beijing Olympic Slogan: "One World, one Dream, Free Tibet 2008," the banner read.

China reportedly has asked Nepal to close the mountain in late April and early May, when the torch would be making its ascent. This time period is the high season for climbing in the Himalayas. After originally indicating Nepal was considering China's request, Nepalese officials have since denied receiving it — although an official told a Nepalese newspaper that climbing on Everest may still be curtailed because of complications due to Nepal's upcoming elections. Ang Tsering from the Nepal Mountaineering Association says "no official word has been given by the government." But he estimated a two-week ban would cost Nepal about $1.5 million in climbing fees—peanuts compared with the tens of millions in aid and loans that Beijing gives Nepal. "It basically shows how much influence the Chinese government has here,? says Tibetan activist Tashi Dhundup, 32, who lives in Nepal. We can't even walk outside the Chinese embassy without getting clubbed about."

China has every right to negotiate and make deals with foreign governments, of course. Mountaineers may protest, but China and Nepal are also within their rights to take such a decision. But it is probably time for Beijing to stop pretending that it doesn't interfere in other countries affairs. With power comes recognizing your own influence, not denying it.

hey reknahs!!

read the title of the thread properly then argue with me......Its says like .... nepal shud be part of nepal, what does that mean????????????????????????

I won't give a penny for your sis's p...... f... bastard....

anura8 just go and sell your mother and sister to a chinese people rather than selling our Nepal.Nepal is not only yours its the heart of 2 crore 50 lakh nepalese living all over the world so freshup your bullshit mind before starting anythread in sajha.

Peolpe like Anura are the one who brought Nepal to this state.

 

I AM Nepali Dude: Dont be stupid. Tibetans are not Nepali. But they have heart bigger than many Nepali. I have seen many country fellow who hate calling themselves Nepali. One must wonder why many Bahuns are not investing in Nepal anymore. Rather they are buying Gas Stations and other businesses in Texas and other places left and right. Where the hell they get all these money from.

Right, Tibetans are not Nepali since they do not have any Citizenship paper. Our gov't stopped issuing them even Refugee Cards. These Tibetans are essentially trapped with no future to look forward to and no jobs to feel secured.

All they are doing is participate in peaceful march. I commend highly of these Tibetans. Their unity all over the world is amazing. May be what we need to learn something from them. They proved themselves worthy citizen in Nepal by developing many socially sound businesses. Did we Nepali do it. F--k no.

For me, these Tibetans are better than many of our own country fellow who did nothing other than abused power, corrupted the system and trasnferred all these money overseas.