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 What separates nepalis from indian?

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Posted on 02-29-12 11:48 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Buddha, sagarmatha and momos.
In other words, not much!!!!!!

 
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"38% of Doctors in America are Indians. 12% of Scientists in America are Indians. 36% of NASA employees are Indians. 34% of MICROSOFT employees are Indians 28% of IBM employees are Indians 17% of INTEL employees are Indians 13% of XEROX employees are Indians."

What is the source of this data?
 
Posted on 03-01-12 1:09 AM     [Snapshot: 1050]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 Times of India
12 Mar 2008, 0010 hrs IST,Chidanand Rajghatta,TNN




WASHINGTON: It's an Internet myth that has taken on a life of its own. No matter how often you slay this phony legend, it keeps popping up again like some hydra-headed beast. 

But on Monday, the Indian government itself consecrated the oft-circulated fiction as fact in Parliament, possibly laying itself open to a breach of privilege. By relaying to Rajya Sabha members (as reported in The Times of India) a host of unsubstantiated and inflated figures about Indian professionals in US, the government also made a laughing stock of itself. 

The figures provided by the Minister of State for Human Resource Development Purandeshwari included claims that 38 per cent of doctors in US are Indians, as are 36 per cent of NASA scientists and 34 per cent of Microsoft employees. 

There is no survey that establishes these numbers, and absent a government clarification, it appears that the figures come from a shop-worn Internet chain mail that has been in circulation for many years. Spam has finally found its way into the Indian parliament dressed up as fact.
 

Attempts by this correspondent over the years to authenticate the figures have shown that it is exaggerated, and even false. Both Microsoft and NASA say they don't keep an ethnic headcount. While they acknowledge that a large number of their employees are of Indian origin, it is hardly in the 30-35 per cent range. 

In a 2003 interview with this correspondent, Microsoft chief Bill Gates guessed that the number of Indians in the engineering sections of the company was perhaps in the region of 20 per cent, but he thought the overall figure was not true. NASA workers say the number of Indians in the organization is in the region of 4-5 per cent, but the 36 per cent figure is pure fiction. 

The number of physicians of Indian-origin in the US is a little easier to estimate. The Association of American Physicians of Indian Origin (AAPI) has 42,000 members, in addition to around 15,000 medical students and residents. There were an estimated 850,000 doctors in the US in 2004. So, conflating the figures, no more than ten per cent of the physicians in US maybe of Indian-origin – and that includes Indian-Americans – assuming not everyone is registered with AAPI. 

These numbers in themselves are remarkable considering Indians constitute less than one per cent of the US population. But in its enthusiasm to spin the image of the successful global Indian to its advantage, the government appears to have milked a long-discredited spam - an effort seen by some readers as the work of a lazy bureaucrat and an inept minister. 

The story has attracted withering scrutiny and criticism on the Times of India's website, with most readers across the world trashing it. 

"The minister should be hauled up by the house for breach of privilege of parliament (by presenting false information based on hearsay). We Indians are undoubtedly one of the most successful ethnic groups in USA, be it in Medicine, Engineering, Entrepreneurship. BUT, that does not translate to those ridiculous numbers that have been presented....this is a circulating e-mail hoax," wrote in Soumya from USA, who said he worked at the NASA facility in Ames, California, and the number was nowhere near what was mentioned in the figures given to Parliament. 

"This minister (D.Purandeshwari, Minister of State for HRD)... should be held accountable for misleading the members of parliament and the citizens of India. This just shows how illiterate and mentally defunct the current Indian govt. is," wrote Anand from Melbourne. 

Purandeshwari is not the first minister to use the dubious figures in a system where politicians depend heavily on their bureaucrats to furnish facts, figures, and speeches. Former home minister L.K.Advani used the same figures in a speech some years back on a visit to Washington DC. 

 
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 okay the numbers  might not be as high..but you cant deny they still matter..
 
Posted on 03-01-12 1:40 AM     [Snapshot: 1059]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Wow. Way to dissect a joke fellas. Thanks for the warm responses.

Don't you realize the author was probably trolling you to elicit emotional responses from you?

Allow me to demonstrate:

p_didi - a wordplay on pdiddy and nepali meaning of 'didi'. i wonder what the 'p' in p_didi insinuates then. OH NO! TERRIBLE THOUGHTS!

And take a second to look at her beautiful smile in the profile picture. Yep. thats how she looks in real life. Totally believe that.

Let us now inspect her thread title - what separates nepalis from indians? 

And while having the concotions of a deep, thoughtful or philosophical debate, all that is immediately blown to bits by her own answer to the question - Buddha, sagarmatha and momos. In other words, not much!!!!!!



And here we are discussing the validity of my proudly conceived jokes like we:

- are less hairy
- don't pick our noses as often
- don't have third class jokes involving mother or sister
- dont shit out in open fields at 6 am.
- dont run around trees in the rain to profess our love.
- have less inter-religious tensions. hindus, buddhists, muslims and even christians living peacefully.
- have bigger balls.
- have a more varied taste in music.
- were never conquered by a foreign power.
- have better, classier, prettier women.
- can shit in the rivers and they will unknowingly drink it all.
- dont have a Bihar.


I guess we are not different at all. 



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Posted on 03-01-12 2:29 AM     [Snapshot: 1109]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 ^^ i did realize the user's intent..however your response pushed me much more to go ahead and dissect your points..you may have been kidding but that also means may be you were not..and seriously believed in what you said..may be you dont but there are quite a few people who actually do..
about being different..yes may be we are in some very minor things..but that shouldn't mean that we go ahead and ridicule people who are not like us...
i have nothing against you..

peace!

 
Posted on 03-01-12 7:34 AM     [Snapshot: 1218]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 All good man. The thing with jokes is if it misses the targeted audience's funny bone, it immediately becomes a statement!

And for the record, no, I don't personally believe all those things! common dude.. shitting upstream so that they can drink downstream? :) I can give you sarcasm & humor 101 if you need :D 

Laters.

 
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 i dont think any of you who have been commenting here has any idea what they are talking about.

by the way i am commenting here because i have lived in one of the largest city of india for several years. and i think i can comment here.

i think indian looks suck, have you walked on street of mumbai or delhi and ever seen how the girls look like and compare it to the gals that walk on the street of kathmandu. you will get your answer. i dont disagree that indians make miss universe and miss world. but just few indians reach the fame doesnot mean the commoners are as good looking. 

we are blessed with beautiful gals. 2/10 (2 out of 10 are goodlooking) indians vs 7/10 nepalese.

yes i agree within this past 10-15 yrs we have been thru hell. but think about nepal before that. you travel in the local bus in india, all you you think about is your wallet and when it will be picked. i havent seen that in nepal.

have you ever heard of daughter being killed after birth in nepal? if so how much and who does it? have you ever heard of nepali buhari being burnt alive because of dowry. if yes how much?

i dont disagree the fact that there aren't worst people among us. but chamal ko bora ma 2-4 wata dhan ko biya vayo vandai ma tyeslai dhan ko bora vanna mildaina. 

you may argue how educated and well established indians are in the US, just think about when did indians started to migrate to the US, and when have we started. its just recently we have large population of people migrating to the US. 20 yrs from now we can compare. 

if anyone give you the stat that how much indian doctors are in the us, just tell them divide the total no of doctors by their total population and the compare with others, they will find the answer.

mitra, if you have lived in india for some time you would appretiate how much liberal your country is.




 
Posted on 03-01-12 8:35 AM     [Snapshot: 1280]     Reply [Subscribe]
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The biggest difference that I have seen is that we care too much about Indians to start a thread on them. I highly doubt any Indian site would start similar thread for Nepalese. We talk about them, hate them, appreciate them...whatever; they certainly don't think about us as much as we do about them. I guess it comes with being a big brother.
 
Posted on 03-01-12 9:57 AM     [Snapshot: 1351]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Eternalsunshine I agree with your 2/10 vs 7/10. in fact in india it might be 1/200 and in nepal it's more like 3/10
The reason india has more miss worlds is because of the law of large numbers.
Another reason you see lot of beautiful indian girls in media is because there are only a handful of them and they all get recruited by the media as soon as they are sighted.

 
Posted on 03-01-12 10:48 AM     [Snapshot: 1409]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@eternalsunshine : Obviously due to historic reasons, India has been able to build insitituitional infrastructre in the sector of education which is of prime importance in building a nation. They have better universities than we do in Nepal. And each of the departments in these universities are populated with world-class thinkers in their domain of knowledge. For a proof, following is an example : http://www.econdse.org/faculty-frame.htm

I don't know if  beautiful girls can fetch dignity for a nation in the global community. 




      
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Posted on 03-01-12 12:19 PM     [Snapshot: 1488]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Law of large number eh.
How do you explain the scarcity of Miss World/Universe title for China? I will give you on Miss Universe title since China entered this competition late; but Miss world?? Venezuela has 12 China has 5.
Just saying.
 
Posted on 03-01-12 1:39 PM     [Snapshot: 1556]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 @eternalsunshine,
i got 3 things to tell you..
-what exactly do number of beautiful girls have to do with how great a country is? is that all you could think of? well, if you wanna talk about that you already know the miss universes and miss worlds form India..and the law of large number was well dissected by kiddo..
well, if it matters so much to you..then here you go
http://www.city-data.com/forum/world/82193-country-has-most-beautiful-sexiest-women-12.html
 
-seems like all you care about bad things happening in a place..less buharis burnt and less pockets picked eh? well apply your law of large numbers there too mitra..

-and the point is not comparing which is better India or Nepal..but about India itself..ridiculing India like its hell of a place is not a good idea..

you're talking about living several years in India? well you're talking to someone whose more than half family are INDIANS themselves...who has experienced Indian culture very closely...but still proud to be a Nepali.


 
Posted on 03-01-12 5:12 PM     [Snapshot: 1700]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Why are we wasting our time on this debate in the first place? Don't we Nepalese have better things to do than counting the good and bad stuffs about our indian fellas? I doubt that they barely waste their time on debating about good and bad stuffs about Nepal or Nepalese. Leave the indians alone and focus on your own life and behaviour guys :)

 
Posted on 03-01-12 7:10 PM     [Snapshot: 1763]     Reply [Subscribe]
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if you want to view indian thru those media and statistics be my guest. 

but next time travel when you go back home travel via india. and if possible stay for few days. you will find your answer.

even then you want to be critical then visit this site.

www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/ 


it says it all

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Posted on 03-01-12 7:19 PM     [Snapshot: 1774]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 @eternalsunshine, i stop debating with a person as soon as i understand that they are not even grown up to know not to attack the person but attack the message..

the bottom line seems to be: haters gonna hate!

peace!

 



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