How ethical of ANA officials to make its members emails public ? Check the site and you can copy the emails. Selling, public display of emails, I take as a breach of trust. I urge them to take this down immediately.                                                    

 http://milankosansar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/ana-voters.pdf                


on lighter note: I have downloaded and saved the whole list so if you want to buy the emails even if they take it down, let me know. (Just wanted to give an example of how they may be abused). 

if privacy is so unimportant how come you are hiding behind a username and not using your real name? maybe it is not important to you and you might not have an issue with that does not  mean other people will see it the same way...i would like to have them send me information about ANA and what not but i don't want my email to be publicly disclosed without my consent...period! Just as I go to a retail store and open a rewards membership does not mean they are allowed to disclose my email or ph# to third party or in any way to the public without my consent...

I read about the new ANA youth movement few days back, the usage of the word 'youth' needs a definition. Who exactly falls in that group? Is there an age range that defines a youth group?

Some 30 years old come from villages so they have different kind of mentality some 30 year olds come from Kathmandu or some even grew up in the US. Does your definition of youth outcast the young men and women who came from villages who have different values than the ones preferred by the so called new 'youth movement'? What's the deal here?

Before you blame anyone, please know some facts.

1) The PDF list with names and email address of ANA attendes of Boston 2010 and DC 2011 conventions was created by ANA Election Committee.

2) After that, online media and emails started circulating the links to that PDF list.

If you are concerned about privacy, or you are angry at something and you want to take action, here is my suggestion.

3) Please goto -- http://anaonline.org/ana-election-2011-update-for-candidates-and-voters-3.html

4) Send email to the following:
To: ANAELECTION2011@yahoo.com
Cc: Sudeep Shrestha ( sudeep_stha@yahoo.com ), Hira Sharma ( hira1885@yahoo.com ), Sharda S. Khati ( shardakhati18@yahoo.com )

5) Tell them to delete your email address ASAP.

6) If they don't bother, then hire a good attorney and file a lawsuit. Be prepared to spend atleast over $20,000 for the long haul.

7) Good Luck with your endeavours.

8) PEACE.

Thank You Moksh. I never thought of that. Read this (what they have in their site)

Moksh,

You gave this discussion a different turn.

Now the mode of election should be altered and the usage of email ID should not be used anymore. The loser in the election will have reasons to protest and call it unfair and unscientific. Even though they send  new voters list, what is the use?

I heard Sudeep Shrestha, already acknowledged the mistake.

NB: I do not support nor against any of the candidates. 

Shirish, you raised a good point.  However, please note that the information were put on a public domain so that the registered members of the ANA would have a chance to see if their names were included on that list.  This was done with no malice or intent to harm the ANA attendees.  Also, with only the ID provided on that list instead of the whole email address, I doubt anyone would have the time to go through that voters' list and find out what the full email address is of ALL 4,000 ANA members who signed up to vote.  Example: If anyone views a certain name, say "prem01" under the email column, I would think it wouldn't be worth their time to speculate if the domain is hotmail.com, yahoo.com, mail.com, rocketmail.com, gmail.com, columbia.edu, nyu.edu, cuny.edu, etc.  There could be a million combinations so I really don't see what the hue and cry is all about as the opportunity to phish into someone's personal life would not be practically feasible.

Also, this is the first time in ANA's 28 year history that a democratic election will be held and so far, 4,000+ people have signed up for the cause (before this year, the elections were always held within closed doors).  Let's not stop them from being able to voice their concerns.  Most folks on sajha and outside as well, complain about how bad their ANA experience have been every single year but yet return the very next year because they have no other choice.  However, this year things can change for the better.  With the power given to each ANA attendee to vote for their candidate of choice, we may finally see better days for what was and still is, the biggest Nepalese association in the US.

The election process: Every name on that list will be sent an email with a link to vote for their candidates.  As such, it was published on a public domain so that the registered attendees could check if their names were on that list and check their ID without the email domain (eg: prem01).  If this list was not published, there could be massive fraud since there would be no method of verifying the voters.  Moreover, names that did not attend the ANA could fraudently end up on that list too.  And, as per other organizations in the US that put up their members' names on their webpage, the ANA election committee did the right thing by putting up those names too so the attendees could check to see that no one besides themselves would vote in their name.

I feel that the Election committee that comprises of well educated and highly qualified group meant well in their intent.  And this being the first ever democratic elections stretching across the US and Canada for the Nepalese Diaspora, a few kinks may arise here and there.  Instead of bashing them relentlessly here on sajha, it would be wiser to give give your input as to how to make the process better or fair.  That way, we'd all move forward as a community.  

 Universal truth,

The correct email shows up when you run the curser over the partial email so you don't need to guess (at all). 

For e.g. one of the candidates email is

acharyabishnu--@hotmail.com 

(I have delibrately deleted two letters). Its not that complicated.

I 

Shirish,

"Now I have the email list. I have saved them. Does it mean that  I can use those emails and spoil the voting system?"
Answer: You cannot, unless you hack the web server of the online voting company. ANA is using - https://www.balloteer.com.

Some quick facts:
- Balloteer will email ONLY the people in the Voters list which ANA provides them. The 4000+.
- Voting is secret meaning ANA cannot know who voted for which candidate.
- This company will send a report to ANA Election Committee which will include info like which candidate received how many votes, % of votes etc.
- This company is owned by http://www.telusys.net/ and is not owned by a NEPALI. This company is in the business of providing online voting as a service for a fee.
- If you are a good hacker and decide to get into their system, their Sys Admin would surely find out and then their lawyer will drag you to the court.
- To use those emails, you would have to first guess the correct email address and then know the password. How else would you click on that secure https link sent by Balloteer and VOTE?


“Does it mean the election is not valid at all ? Can I make a candidate win or lose. Can I use Dhirengurung11--@yahoo.com and vote on his behalf?? I won't do those things but can be done right?”
Answer: This will depend on whether you can hack into Dhiren Gurung's email acct. How are you going to guess the password? BTW, you already know this .. hacking into someone's email acct is illegal and you can get prosecuted.

Thank You Moksh for the information. You seem to be an insider and know more than me.