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San
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Posted on 02-27-14 9:14
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The recent melodrama in the media regarding a social service icon Dilshova comes as a harsh reminder of the day and age we live in.
The main issue was that the credibility of Dilshova was attacked in a very heinous manner - accusing her of sexual misconduct on the very children she gave her life to serve. This was the worst slander and defamation of character that was possible and the involved media chose to publish such harsh judgment on her character without any kind of verification or sense of responsibility. Even the name of the journalist making the accusation has not been published.
It is a shame that many highly qualified educated individuals are seemingly participating in the blame game instead of trying to understand the gravity of the situation. The point is that a selfless individual who was doing an immense service to the needy was attacked in a moral and personal manner, and the so called educated elite is trying to make it about the 'management', 'record keeping' and 'healthy living conditions'.
They forget that this is Dilshova's home, and how many of you know homes where they need to have a big management for record keeping and meeting specific requirement? This is not the US or some developed country we are talking about. In paper it looks good to say we have this many educated and this many hospitals, but in the street and village level, we have the majority of Nepali population living in worse conditions than the one provided by Dilshova. You cannot blame her for making their lives better off than it would have been without her intervention.
Legally, maybe she's required to file papers and such, but you cannot blame an unlicensed surgeon for saving a man dying of heart attack. However, if it is in your character to find fault you can always find fault saying 'He was not even licensed.' 'He had not taken a bath for a month.' 'He was not using sanitized equipment or gloves.' and the list can go on. But, the most important point here is that a life was saved. Whether it was a legal thing or not is not important specially in Nepal where murderers roam free with protection from higher echelon of the legal entities.
So dwelling on the legality of social service is a ridiculous stance that anyone can take. The sanitation is an important issue, but then again, how many Nepali families have access to good sanitation? Someone living exposed to the street is worse off than someone living under Dilshova's house. Would it be nice? Yes, obviously! It would be nice if everyone in Nepal had access to fresh drinking water, access to medication, sanitary living environment and all that, but we cannot force the ideal scenario onto harsh reality.
As far as the establishment reeking urine and feces, anyone who have been to a daycare of infants will know that it is only normal for such smell and similarly when there are numerous elderlies with low control over their bowels and bladders, then such smell is only natural.
Having said all this, obviously some better management would be nice, but then again, there are many things in this life that would be nice. I am sure this comes as a good lesson to Dilshova in the need to manage more - as long as she has the finances for it.
All I am saying is that let's not put excessive undue stress on trivialities, and appreciate the big picture. A social service icon's character has been defamed by the greedy media who want to sensationalize everything so that they can sell well. Instead of focusing on 'good to have things', can we look critically at these irresponsible media for their false claim, trying to discredit a known figure to gain negative publicity for their own establishments?
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Rahuldai
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Posted on 02-28-14 11:20
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अहिले सम्मको समाचारहरु लाई विश्लेषण गर्दा "दिल शोभा " को समाचारलाई प्रमुखता दिई प्रकाशन गर्ने नागरिक दैनिक र माइ संसार डट कम देखियो | अरुले तिनैलाई साभार गरेको देखियो | आज नागरिक दैनिकमा उक्त समाचारदाताले अर्को लेख लेखी आफ्नो कामलाई पुष्ट्याई गर्न खोज्यो भने माइ संसारले थप अडियो तथा भिडियो प्रकाशित गर्यो | सब प्रश्न उठ्छ , नागरिक दैनिक र माइ संसार लाई मात्र यत्रो टाउको दुखाइ किन ?? संयोग मात्र पक्कै हैन होला माइ संसारका माइ बाप पनि नागरिक दैनिक कै जागिरे हुन् | अर्को संयोग माइ संसारका उप बुज्रुक कालिमाटीकै स्थायी बासिन्दा हुन् जुन आमा घर भन्दा आधा किमि को दूरी मा पर्दछ- आफै जान सक्ने मान्छेले अरुको हवालामा समाचार किन सम्प्रेषण गरि राख्या छ ?
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paradox
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Posted on 02-28-14 11:51
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From this recent controversy, I do believe whatever Dilshova did so far is not because she had feeling to work / help to those poor elderly people. It was motivated by her christian faith to attain her heaven, for conversion and for getting money from around world. Here in Sajha, it seems some people are highly protective most likely they are protecting their own trust towards her, and their own judgement in helping her monetarily and morally.
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Posted on 02-28-14 12:05
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And Paradox.. your source is ? For making that claim ? I for one am not protecting anyone or accusing anyone, I am just standing on the sideline watching this whole thing unfold.
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paradox
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Posted on 02-28-14 12:20
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Bathroom Coffee, It may be first time, you are asking Source. Is not it a proof that you are still protecting/defending some thing. When you look those videos of those older woman, kids and their pathetic life, despite getting alot of support from arround the world, you still dont feel it as the source to suspect Dishova.
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Posted on 02-28-14 12:24
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If we try to delve into the ulterior motives of someone for doing something good, then where would the likes of Mother Teresa be today. I am not a Christian. In fact, I am opposed to any kind of organized religion. The fact of her religion or for that matter any of her personal preference should not take away what she has done. I did read about those below the belt punch accusation where else but our much talked about mysansar.com. This I believe is a new low trying for the lack of the better word shall we say -- public crucifixion.
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paradox
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Posted on 02-28-14 12:31
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So, for you ulterior motive has no meaning! Which mean goal/end is important not the means to achieve it. Which imply present is not important but future is. This is the typical way of thinking of organized religions and communism.
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 02-28-14 12:47
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Paradox, I asked you a question but instead answering it you went on to accuse me of protecting her. This is the very type of mentality that is fugging up our society. I have read the news and seen the videos, but I can buy the same kind of newspaper reporters and tv personalities on a dime to prove that you are talking out of your ass. That is all !!
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paradox
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Posted on 02-28-14 12:49
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Bathroom Coffee, I think you can buy and i think you are buying this time as well.
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 02-28-14 12:54
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paradox
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Posted on 02-28-14 12:55
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So it your final defend for Dilshova, good job.
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Posted on 02-28-14 12:59
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Dude, Do you even know what ulterior motive even means? What I said: Don't try to delve in someone's ulterior motive What you thought I said: Ulterior motive has no meaning --> end is important than means --> future is important than present --> Organized religion/ communism So, don't try to stretch my argument and put words in my mouth, you little f**ktard!!
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Posted on 02-28-14 1:04
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about recent news on amaghar and dilshova: I just wonder, any of the jacka$$ who is criticizing ama ghar and dilshova in a -ve way due to the current hype news from creepy media, could you provide shelter @ your so well decorated sweet home to any of the disabled, elderly poor ppl begging across the dirty street of Nepal? If you can and have done so, you kind of deserve to criticize and write against what SAN has included in his post. however (I bet back those days had and even now, you would cover your nose passing by such people) so, just shut the f**k up..have budlight..jerk watching some porno and then watch 'Mystic River'..and 'Gone Baby Gone'.. you jerk may understand something... Last edited: 28-Feb-14 01:04 PM
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 02-28-14 1:10
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Paradox, FOR THE LAST TIME I AM NOT DEFENDING ANYONE OR SUPPORTING ANYONE, I ASKED YOU A QUESTION WHERE YOU GOT YOUR " I do believe whatever Dilshova did so far is not because she had feeling to work / help to those poor elderly people. It was motivated by her christian faith to attain her heaven, for conversion and for getting money from around world." STATEMENT FROM YOU DINGBAT !! AND ITS DEFENSE AND NOT DEFEND MR. SIMPLETON. LOL !!
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Posted on 02-28-14 1:13
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What if the all the allegations are true. Just listen to audio clips. No matter how good dilshova's has done it doesn't give her the right to treat the kids as her pet and send them as d
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paradox
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Posted on 02-28-14 1:14
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Bathroom, You are still defending and you dont know you are defending. You might have multiple personality disorder.
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Vivant
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Posted on 02-28-14 1:42
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A couple of points (1) A Google search will lead you to information about Dil Shova's faith. From this document it appears she was born a Hindu and converted to Christianity: http://www.iarfsacc.org/downloads/72 (2) Her religion should not matter. (3) If she has religious motives for her work, it is hard to tell, at least based on the information available so far. (4) The more important question as far as her religion goes is whether she is being targeted by some *because of* her faith. I would not put it past the scumbags at MySansar and their breed of low-brow journalism to do such a thing. Remember they were born of a wife-swapping story and sensationalism has been their bread and butter. (5) it is tempting to look at this through a clannish prism. We seem to do this every time a Lok Man Singh Karki, Bhagwan Koirala, Dil Shova Shrestha or a Mahabir Pun gets a profile bump let alone when it is someone from a different religion - particularly a convert. I wouldn't be surprised if more people are offended by her conversion than by any wrong she may have done, knowingly or unknowingly, towards those she was sheltering. (6) One point where I think Paradox is spot on is when he says "they are protecting their own trust towards her, and their own judgement in helping her monetarily and morally." This is what seems to be at the crux of this thread. As New Trader said, if this had been any other NGO, people might have reacted differently. (7) Till the investigation is over, we wont know the whole truth. The story is coming out in bits and pieces and breaking selectively - perhaps to suit the needs of some. (8) If found guilty she should be punished, if not, My Sansar should be investigated for slander and defamation.
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Posted on 02-28-14 2:04
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Same pinch by Bijay Kumar http://www.ekantipur.com/np/2070/11/17/full-story/384924.html
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Posted on 02-28-14 2:23
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@itroll i have a hunch that among those children who are dramatically rescued only to be placed back to the street again, is one of your children... :) That's why you're so much worried for them. Where the heck were you to pretend to show concern when those children were before they were @ amaghar. question 4 u ! What if the all the allegations are false.
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Posted on 02-28-14 9:39
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श्रेष्ठलाई लागेका बिभिन्न दुव्र्यवहारका आरोपबारे थप कुनै अनुसन्धान नभएको काठमाडौं प्रहरी परिषरका एसएसपी रमेश खरेलले जानकारी दिए । 'हालसम्म बालकल्याण समिति र जिल्ला प्रशासन कार्यालयले हेरिरहेको छ,' उनले भने, 'प्रहरीलाई अनुसन्धान गरिदिनुस भनेर कसैले औपचारिक आग्रह गरेको छैन, त्यसैले हालसम्म घटनाबारे केही अनुसन्धान अघि बढाएका छैनौं ।' उनका अनुसार समितिले प्रहरीलाई अनुसन्धान गर्न भनेपछि मात्रै अनुसन्धान अघि बढाउँछौं । - See more at: http://www.ekantipur.com/np/2070/11/16/full-story/384927.html#sthash.RedRZ3jO.dpuf so there is no police investigation either. Seems like it was all made up..
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Posted on 03-01-14 3:02
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The plot thickens. A foreigner appears to be the driving force behind the raid: http://www.myrepublica.com/~myrepub/portal/index.php?action=news_details&news_id=70304
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