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calciteko
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Posted on 04-30-08 1:11
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Today I read this news in http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2008/apr/apr30/news01.php Well I agree with their opinion that Nepal should be declared as Hindu country but I don't agree that monarchy should still exist in Nepal. What's your opinion? Please don't just give your opinion also express why you think so? If you ask me here's my reason Currently 85% of the population in Nepal are Hindu. So, I think it's nothing wrong to declare it as Hindu country. Also I consider Buddhism and Hinduism as one religion. You may not agree with me but I have never found any Hindu person who thinks Buddhism as a separate religion. Just think how many times you have been to Swoyambhu, Baudha, even Lumbini. Now, you have ever been to Mosque of Ghantaghar? How many times you've celebrated Buddha Jayanti? Why any Hindu gets mad when some media says Buddha was born in India. It may not sound like legitimate reason for you but think carefully you still think there is/was a difference between Hinduism and Buddhism. So, I strongly support the fact that Nepal should be redeclare as Hindu country. But monarch should be out of Nepal because they were/are corrupt. They never thought about country they just thought about themselves. Now, it seems like in the name of religion they want to re-enforce the monarchy, which I think is wrong. Shame on those people who use religion for such thing.
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RESOLUTE
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Posted on 04-30-08 1:14
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Posted on 04-30-08 1:49
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country shouldn't favor any religion. Majority of Nepalese are Hindu, its true. State cann't neglect remaining people with different religions. People who believe in Budhism don't agree with you and they believe that its not a part of Hinduism. We have respect them.
Even in India 83% population follow Hinduism, its a secular country. And I don't understand why many Indians want Nepal as a Hindu Kingdom not India. They are warning to start armed struggle to stablish Hindu Kingdom in Nepal. http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2008/apr/apr30/news01.php
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samashan
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Posted on 04-30-08 2:03
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i think now every one is known as NEPAL coz of political crasis and huge corruption and maoist.But we need to know what is nepal in past now and what can we do for the future. coz in Nepal there is no any industries, no any minirals, so what we have just mountain,river , our religion and our king . so i think this 4 things if we all preserved and put them in there own way . may be some days we can see our nepal like 50 years before NEPAL. clean ,safe,and lovely one. why i am telling u this , yeah i our country we put hindisum and buddhism in same equal place . coz we think one of the incarnation of bhishnu is lord buddha also. and NEPAL is the only one the last country of hindusium thats why we need to preserved. we all know tourism is only one way to gain some thats why we need to protect mountain and rivers.even i dont know the king and i even get a bad impression abt his son but i still want him to saty and be a king of our country . why,coz he is the only one last option .1)last hindu king and kingdom.2)we all see this parties . if this last party (maoist)also cant do any thing and he is also go after indian favor , so what happen to NEPAL and we nepalese people . even atleast if we put the KING , may be even this political leaders do something bad and wrong .we all can do the same protest and march like what we are doing from before to till now . coz we think KING is in our back. but if we kick this KINGï¼³ out , i think we close our own door for ever.
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axara
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Posted on 04-30-08 4:10
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samashan, seems like you received a heavy dose of Mahendra Mala and Samajik Sikchhya.
It is about time Nepal had a new identity. Time to let go of romanticized and emotional bonds with monarchy/religion/history etc. It would be really nice if Buddha was still around.
More important than national identity is one's individual indentity. If everytime we have to go somewhere and say 'I am from Nepal... do you know Mt. Everest?.. the tallest...? ' That, my friend, will not take us very far.
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samashan
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Posted on 04-30-08 4:26
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axara thanks yeah may be i am influenced by MM or moral science . but every one need to know that basic. its just people want or doesnt. for me i still want and i think thats useful for our country in future also . yeah may be u are in abroad and know some more like care urself and make urself but i think humanatiry is not only stock in that . first make country .now how many % of world they knows about nepal may be more than 80% . may be u think most of worlds they knows it and u been proud of that also . but ask them how do they knows . all the peoples give the same answer that maosist , polital crasis and poorest country . and u still feeling proud of that(be shame)。 before democracy foreigners knows nepal through himalayan kingdom and peace in heaven . so what abt now , have u ever realise that. coz may be u didnt get a chance to read MM . may be u come from prachanda path . lets see whats in future.
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axara
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Posted on 04-30-08 4:45
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Samashan, the recent election showed ppl don't care. And you are right to have your views for your reasons.
Let me ask you question number one. Make Country ? What does this mean and how is it done? Does anyone have an answer to this? .. sabai milera bikas ko mool futau... Bikas comes from ppl choosing to do things that will enrich their lives, brings them happiness and peace. And MONEY does all that and bit more too. How far did Nepal go without money but a lot of deshbhakti over the past 50 yrs?
Now let me ask you question number two. Why is it important for foreigners (or the rest of the world for that matter) to identify or know Nepal in a certain way? Most of the (western) world ppl don't care, and don't know who/what/where Nepal is. And they couldn't be bothered to find that out. They have their own set of problems, Nepal has its own. Oh, don't say I am closer to the west, because YES, considering alternatives like Africa, Latin America, Mid East, etc, west is relatively calmer and stable, so is a good stick to measure by.
My friend, there is no shame in the past or the present of Nepal. Utter shame is to stay in a state of denial, wrapped by a blanket of patriotic myths.
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gyanguru
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Posted on 04-30-08 5:42
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No any country have to be described in terms of religion.
Nepal needs to be a secular state.
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Chaakman
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Posted on 04-30-08 8:31
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Posted on 04-30-08 10:13
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Posted on 04-30-08 10:24
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My parents are christians and i know the hardships they went throught because they were christians. We had police come to our home for no reason. My mother was harressed by other neighbors as they blamed her for eating beef (where in the earth would you get beef in Nepal first of all), my father was jailed many times and all this my friend in the name of religion and in a country where you all think nothing such happened few years back.
When you name a country after a religion, there are some people who would try to take advantage from it. I think it is one reasons why all the pundits exploited the people of low caste. If you name Nepal a hindu country then what about the caste system? i know you would say Hindu religion does not allow it but ask your pundit or someone who is of Hindu authority or in a village and if they agree?
I hope Nepal will remain secular and will give a space also for a christian like me....
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Birbhadra
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Posted on 04-30-08 1:05
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Hindu is a word coined by westerners, there is no such word in any of the texts related to sanatan dharma.
Nepal should be a secular state and all religions should be kept out of government.
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greencookie
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Posted on 04-30-08 1:39
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Religion? I guess it would depend on what effect it would have on the masses. If you make it a Hindu country, will it be easier to control the people through religious petitions and such other propaganda? If you do decide NOT to declare it a Hindu country, there better be an alternative to pacify the masses. The reason my answers are so bare and insensitive is because, THAT is how the government operates and I had my doubts for a while but now I'm pretty sure the government is only there to act like they're there for the people, while actually making profit for their greedy asses. The final answer rests on the issue of control. Let us hypothesize. IF we act in righteous fury and "free our brethrens" from the evil clutches of a self interested psychotic government and give them true democracy, meaning: 1. Freedom of speech, movement, thought, religion and CASTE! 2. Right to vote (which is already there) 3. Individuality (a coffee shop owner in rural Kathmandu can go out buy himself a nice set of bras and panties and wear it for the world to see) 4. Protection and enforcing of all these rights. And many more, but just these four suffice to raise most eyebrows. Freedom of speech, is there to an extent, but the press isn't free yet. Freedom of caste? what does that mean? No bahun, jyapus, bhotes, or any other derogatory terms to be used on innocent victims who have ABSOLUTELY no idea WHY they are in that particular caste but defend it on natural instincts anyways. If we are born free, then we should be able to live free and die free as well. But I guess its quite the opposite once you get past the "born free" phase. Individuality! Holy crap! Bheda bhakrha! Group Thinking....... " S A M A J". Sound familiar? "Phalna ko chora le, hariyo rang ko gaadi kinyo!" "Phalna ko chori ta, thamel ma kun khate kta ko haat samatera hinirathiyo!" and...my personal favourite " ....!!!! Samaj le K bhancha???" we should ignore this kind of samaj:D So in conclusion, personally, I feel yes Nepal should be a secular country, but politically it might be easier to handle if it was a hindu kingdom.
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amitraja
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Posted on 04-30-08 1:56
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Yes, and it is a Hindu Nation. I Don't care whatever the constitution will say. For me it is and will remain the only Hindu Nation in the World.
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Posted on 04-30-08 1:56
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Birbhadra
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Posted on 04-30-08 2:32
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It was a Hindu kingdom for past 200+ years. It is now a secular country. I don't see much difference. Dhesh bhikhari ko bhikari nai cha.
Lets focus more on education and social justice through economic development rather than focus on religion.
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F22
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Posted on 04-30-08 3:37
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Nepal should be a Hindu nation as it was in the past. Nepal has been a safe haven for people of all faith for centuries as a Hindu nation and should continue to be so. Historically inhabitants of Nepal have been Hindu and Buddhist; people from other religions migrated knowing this fact and interestingly they preferred a Hindu nation over a secular nation south of border. Does this fact not show that we can be a Hindu nation and still be safe haven for people of all other religion?
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 04-30-08 3:51
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Yeah dig from our past to enslave our future !! Great thinking...he he We do not need another religious institution influencing our governmental policies. This will only create more problems not solve them.
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greencookie
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Posted on 04-30-08 8:10
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We should convert everyone to scientology:D lol!
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Hari Dai
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Posted on 04-30-08 8:14
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It should be becoz we are and u know other countries where there are such a huge population of any religion they are declared why not us??
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